Friday, April 18, 2008

How words destroy experience

"So if I am eating a steak hot off the BBQ, I perceive that it tastes good and comment in my mind that "this steak is delicious". Is this considered being "unmindful" of the process of eating, because of mental commentary? If so, then what else would there be to be aware and mindful of?"

Says some random dude in a post. My reply was:

"In my humble opinion, if you label the steak as "delicious" as you eat it, you are placing it into a box labeled delicious which you have created and has various properties. Basically, saying a steak is delicious is an extreme over simplification of what eating a steak is really like.

Here's an analogy. You tell your deaf friend "Wow this is a great song!". Does he have any freaking idea what you're talking about? No. The actual song is infinatley more detailed then the words which can be used to describe it.

Therefore everytime you analyze a moment and break it down into words (mental commentary) you are over simplifying. The words are simply not accurate.

My 2 cents. "

Yea. Freakin words man. It's funny that the second you describe something, you're fucking wrong! Words just fail, that's all there is to it. I really feel they can cheapen an experience by placing it in a box. You end up with a ton of experiences which all belong in the same box and you think, i'm bored, this is all the same. But really, it's not all the same. You just don't fucking notice cause you threw everything into the same box.

Yes, coffee is coffee. But no 2 cups of coffee are the same. God, even different SIPS of coffee have different consistancies and different temperatures. If you think everytime you drink a cup of coffee it's just another tally on the box labeled "coffee" you're fuckin doing it wrong! Pay attention grasshopper!

Don't get me wrong here, this has very little to do with coffee, and I'm as guilty as the next guy. I guess the buzzword here is:

conceptualize

1. to form into a concept; make a concept of. –verb (used without object)
2. to form a concept; think in concepts.


Once you conceptualize anything, you're probably wrong. There are some exceptions, rigid science can reach certain truth's through words, though most science these days isn't really science at all. Now that I think about it, the science that expresses real truth's can be represented in numbers like the acceleration of an object under the influence of Earth's gravity slightly above sea level. However even with that there is some inaccuracy. Wind resistance isn't taken into account for one thing. You could measure the force of gravity on an object at a particular altitude, but if the Earth isn't perfectly round, that altitude measurement becomes a bit fuzzy.

Man I'm just proving my own fuckin point trying to disprove it. Once you conceptualize something, you're wrong. Shit is just too complicated. You could spend a lifetime describing the interactions of atoms and molecules when you take a bite out of a sandwich and you still wouldn't have described the taste.

2 comments:

Lauren said...

whoa ... you totally just blew my mind ...

Words do tend to lose their meanings, especially when they are overused. A word that drives me crazy - well actually this is a phrase; "that girl is smokin'!" I mean... what the hell. No she isn't. You find her attractive. Some have described that as "hot" and you are trying to say she's so "hot" she could be "smoking" which granted is a compliment... of sorts ... but she's not smoking in the literal sense. And really, no girl needs to hear she's hot. Just kiss her and stop fucking around with words.

Just a little, you know, tic-tac sized comment that I felt was necessary.

Spiral said...

Well, generally hot things smoke cause they have a lack of oxygen (to the brain).